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*	Topic for #soldierx is: SOLDIERX.COM - Nobody Can Stop Information Insemination - X - http://www.soldierx.com/bbs/201009/SX-Needs-Your-Help
*	Topic for #soldierx set by RaT at Wed Sep 15 17:29:13 2010
<iceberg>	c/c++ is a simple language if you have someone to help explain it to you, if you just read a book your going to miss so much
<pwnjuice>	i have a idea what to use it for but i need to develop it more before i start
<pwnjuice>	I want php right now before c
<iceberg>	however ObjC is a better object language
<pwnjuice>	and thats what im working on
<iceberg>	php is C++
<Kayin>	hmm..no..
<pwnjuice>	not really
<iceberg>	if you can code in php and not in c++ you are brain dead
<iceberg>	is that a better simmilation?
<pwnjuice>	ya me and ciscos sister
<pwnjuice>	n e ways
<pwnjuice>	php is scripting not gui interface involved for what i want to do
<pwnjuice>	and sintax is different
<pwnjuice>	= ignore spelling 
<RaT>	who all is here from SX?
<pwnjuice>	not by much but for enought yes
<RaT>	like actually in the room
<lattera>	RaT: me
<pwnjuice>	me
<RaT>	pwnjuice: you're not a member lol
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<Kayin>	I'm here
<pwnjuice>	you life
<pwnjuice>	i am
<RaT>	we have meetings on various nights
<pwnjuice>	you lie
<RaT>	so you're listed on the crew?
<datanetwork>	here
<pwnjuice>	o
<lattera>	my membership is something I wanted to briefly talk about
<pwnjuice>	not that kid of member
<pwnjuice>	but site and irc yes
<lattera>	maybe before the meeting officially started
<lattera>	would now be a good time to bring it up?
<RaT>	you can cover it now if you want lattera, this meeting will probably be fairly short
<RaT>	i've been sick all week :(
<Rocket>	im here
<lattera>	k
<EverestX>	  me
<RaT>	everest, can you call cisc0ninja?
<EverestX>	Im stuck on a conf call with a space agency.
<lattera>	I had joined with the promise that I would deliver version 1.0 of libhijack to SX by spring 2011 and donate the project in full to SX
<RaT>	:9
<pwnjuice>	should i bounce out?
<RaT>	you can stay if you want pwnjuice, just don't chime in :-P
<lattera>	however, it seems I wont' be able to deliver on that promise
<lattera>	I can still donate the project, but not as 1.0
<RaT>	what version will it be?
<lattera>	I'm in the process of writing a non-free whitepaper that I wouldn't mind donating to SX VIP
<RaT>	i thought you were only selling the ebook?
<lattera>	but with three jobs and an upcoming wedding, my time is very limited
<lattera>	would the whitepaper be sufficient for SX membership, or should I demote myself?
<lattera>	I will be self-publishing the whitepaper on Amazon as an ebook
<RaT>	hmmm
<lattera>	so I'm not 100% sure I can donate it to SX VIP... it depends on what rights Amazon gives me
<RaT>	so you are not going to be working on the code base anymore?
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<lattera>	I will not be working on the code base anymore... at least, not until the medical bills are taken care of
<lattera>	and my car is taken care of
<RaT>	gotcha
<RaT>	well, i understand that you are busy and I think you have demonstrated enough to be a member of SX
<RaT>	if the time crunch gets to be too much, you might go into retirement.  But for now I think that youa re good
<RaT>	i think with the whitepaper i could probably work on the code base
<lattera>	cool
<RaT>	i prefer to read about something and then see the code
<RaT>	not the other way around :-P
<lattera>	yeah
<lattera>	anyways, that's what I wanted to talk about
<lattera>	on with the meeting :)
<RaT>	indeed
<Rocket>	Oface artwork?
<RaT>	damn you iceberg
<RaT>	distracting me during the meeting
<EverestX>	blowjobs are pretty distracting.
<iceberg>	sorry, but do the meeting the check that see if you think it's SX worthy for somethign non-public
<RaT>	probably
<RaT>	when will you be able to reach cisc0 everest?
<iceberg>	we can talk tomorrow, I was just happy it was working
<EverestX>	Unfortunatley I'm stuck on this conf call, I'll see if I can put them on hold for a min or something
<EverestX>	Space is apparently big business, except these guys dont even have a space ship anymore.. what noobs.
<Rocket>	lol
<EverestX>	Ok, put them on hold, he isn't answering
<RaT>	not sure on oface artwork rocket
<RaT>	cisc0ninja hasn't really said anything about oface
<RaT>	all he said in the past was "yo, i can do this shit in a weekend but i'd rather do this custom sx firewall..."
<RaT>	and i said "finish OFACE first"
<RaT>	and it's still not done
<pwnjuice>	Im out. needs to go to my fire crouchs house. Lattera let me know whats up or if you wanna chill you got my number laters
<lattera>	kk
<Rocket>	all good 
<EverestX>	I've fiddled around with the USB bootloader shit, but I still dont understand why the hell windows will boot from it
<RaT>	hopefully cisc0 gets his act together, i'm about to force feed him ritalin
<RaT>	lol
<Rocket>	He can contact me anytime with information on whats all involved 
<Rocket>	I would be happy to help. 
<RaT>	yea, i'm not sure how far he got with nights
<RaT>	i'm afraid it might be the same as the other oface
<RaT>	coscstudent just gave up on it
<RaT>	it can't be that hard
<RaT>	you still up kayin
<RaT>	i guess not
<RaT>	where are you with your projects everest?
<Kayin>	aaahh  yea i'm up
<RaT>	are we giving up on junkie?
<Kayin>	for the time being
<EverestX>	Waiting on parts in the mail for the wifi deal. got a tutorial on the way, and working another 'toy'
<RaT>	any of those projects i mentioned sound fun kayin?
<RaT>	or do you know C#?
<Kayin>	lol yes I know C#
<Kayin>	I'm interested in more of that true crypt thing
<RaT>	well, i was thinking you could finish oface :-P
<RaT>	since everybody wants it
<Kayin>	i'll have to talk to you about that offline
<Kayin>	or well.. not on here
<cisc0ninja>	let kayin work on the truecrypt thing, i wanna code more on oface before i pass it off or have someone else work on it, rat you should know that i've had a lot of shit going on lately as distractions
<RaT>	oh shit, it's cisc0ninja
<RaT>	yea, i know you have a lot of shit going on
<RaT>	i also know you said it would take you a weekend
<RaT>	when you were trying to tell me that you should work on the firewall instead
<RaT>	i'm just saying with everything going on + the amount of time it has already taken
<cisc0ninja>	it would depending on how much customization, also a weekend meaning we would be using a bunch of pre-existing shit along the way
<RaT>	might be good to have somebody with more coding experience push it out
<RaT>	i just want it done, that's my only stance
<cisc0ninja>	i'll pass it off if you like but i'ld like to finish a couple more things on it, as well, if time permits, the gui needs fixing, i really dont like the way nights has it layed out, i ask him to redo it, but even after redoing it, it looks the same
<RaT>	how long do you think we're talking?
<RaT>	i mean you can keep it if you think you can finish it
<RaT>	and not like a "give me a month" and you put it off until the end of a monht
<RaT>	but like steadily working on it weekly
<RaT>	meeting the deadline
<cisc0ninja>	i'ld say 2 weeks,not this weekend but next weekend i should have what i want done w/the coding, and then the next week redo the gui
<RaT>	i haven't seen anything out of the inductees other than rocket :(
<RaT>	althoguh i know iceberg contacts me and has been working on various things
<RaT>	datanetwork showed up to the meeting 
<RaT>	not sure what he's working on with kayin
<RaT>	seems like everything is so disorganized, and i don't know how to change it
<datanetwork>	havnt spoken to him
<Kayin>	working on with Kayin?
<Kayin>	nobody's working on anything with me lol
<RaT>	yes
<datanetwork>	im pushing to have wat i was working on before thanksgiving
<RaT>	last meeting we said he would be with you instead of cisc0ninja
<RaT>	https://www.soldierx.com/sxonly/Inductee-Assignments
<datanetwork>	ill send you a kite Kayin
<RaT>	from 10-07-2010
<RaT>	<cisc0ninja>let kayin be in charge of datanetwork, data knows some programming..kayin can mentor him there
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<RaT>	<Kayin>sure, hopefully this one talks to me
<Kayin>	oh yea i remember that
<Kayin>	yea, datanetwork  send me an e-mail or something
<RaT>	lol, one of the reasons for these meetings :-)
<Kayin>	we'll have to connect
<datanetwork>	yeah
<RaT>	i'm wondering if we should try to have them at the same time every week, or just use doodle for everybody to pick a dynamic time
<RaT>	i would say they need to be a maximum of an hour
<RaT>	and probably be earlier
<RaT>	since i'm sick, i'm going to need to crash shortly
<RaT>	going to be pushing out a ton of releases that i've received from pirrup, blake, and others before the weekend hits though
<lattera>	wednesday nights usually work for me
<Kayin>	sweet
<Rocket>	Wednesday works for me 
<RaT>	kid asked me to move to wednesday and he's not here :(
<Kayin>	I'm not home before 9 on wednesdays
<cisc0ninja>	depending on the time i might be able to make it
<EverestX>	 I dont care what day really, it's just got to be later in the day 
<RaT>	yea, didn't realize it would mess with cisc0's work schedule
<RaT>	does 10pm work for most people?
<RaT>	i think that would work for cisc0 if i remember (from the convo last night)
<cisc0ninja>	10pm cst
<cisc0ninja>	lol
<RaT>	what is that eastern?
<RaT>	11?
<Rocket>	so 9pm  EST
<cisc0ninja>	yea
<RaT>	is that too early for anybody?
<Kayin>	works for me
<Rocket>	works for me 2
<cisc0ninja>	huh
<cisc0ninja>	i was saying yea to 11, not to 9 rofl
<EverestX>	Works.
<RaT>	so it's 1:56pm CST right now?
<Rocket>	11:56
<RaT>	oh
<RaT>	so 11pm EST?
<cisc0ninja>	11:57 cst, 12:57 EST
<RaT>	oh
<RaT>	in that case, 10 is too early?
<Rocket>	we are an hour behind u 
<cisc0ninja>	would another day work, if ppl cant stay up that late on weekdays?
<cisc0ninja>	i mean everyone else seems to want it early but i cant do early so would sunday night work better?
<RaT>	i think 10pm EST would be good if 9pm CST is not too early for you
<iceberg>	wow, are you computer nerds having dificulties understanding time zones?
<cisc0ninja>	rofl
<Rocket>	lol ya sun rises from the east
<cisc0ninja>	only rat is 
<cisc0ninja>	10pm est is the same as 9pm cst
<cisc0ninja>	lulz
<iceberg>	sorry I just couldnt stay quiet on that
<RaT>	lol yea
<RaT>	sorry i'm sick
<RaT>	not really that good for thinking
<iceberg>	still?
<iceberg>	or again?
<cisc0ninja>	i think he's doing that thing where he doesnt focus 100% of his attention and just bounces back and forth between a million things at once
<EverestX>	 Aids sucks.
<RaT>	i'm just trying to find out if 9 cst is too early
<cisc0ninja>	for everyone else it isn't for me it is
<iceberg>	thats like 9PST
<RaT>	i thoght you were at work 9pm cst
<iceberg>	and like 5pm in hawaii
<RaT>	and 10 pm cst
<cisc0ninja>	yea i am at work lol
<RaT>	so if you were at work for both, what's the difference?
<cisc0ninja>	which means i couldnt devote 100% of my attention to the meeting
<cisc0ninja>	because if the meeting is an hour, and the meeting started at 10cst, it would last until 11cst at least
<RaT>	yea
<cisc0ninja>	i get off at 10:30, so i could devote at least a half hour to 100% focus on the meeting
<RaT>	ok, so 11pm EST (10pm CST) it is
<Kayin>	on wednesday
<Kayin>	ok
<RaT>	if ever in doubt, check the meetings page
<RaT>	i keep sending out mass emails but they don't seem to be helping
<Rocket>	I did and I was still an hour early lol
<EverestX>	 Your emails make me feel special at least.
<RaT>	:-)
<RaT>	ok, well everybody try to make some progress on your projects
<RaT>	keep watching the news, going to post the tutorial contest on november 1st
<RaT>	gotta talk to lattera some more about prizes though
<RaT>	it will only be a 2 month contest this time
<lattera>	we can talk about it now if you want
<RaT>	i would, but i feel like shit :(
<RaT>	i need to rest
<lattera>	sorry you feel bad :(
<RaT>	yea, it sucks
<RaT>	i'll be around tomorrow
<RaT>	we'll probably still do a netbook, but maybe not
<RaT>	we need to get it advertised though
<RaT>	if the prizes are getting bigger
<lattera>	feel free to call me about it
<RaT>	since your old netbook is gone, it would be a brand new one
<lattera>	I know you wanna go to bed, but let me just say that I can put in $50 right now towards a new netbook
<Rocket>	if we put in a small advert I could maybe get door prizes 
<lattera>	anything more than $50 right now I'd need to talk to my girlie abou
<lattera>	*about
<lattera>	I can probably do a plan to donate $50 per month towards a new netbook
<RaT>	sure
<RaT>	well, think up some ideas guys!
<RaT>	we'll discuss it all at the next meeting
<EverestX>	 Ok Im out. Get better rat, syphilis is hard to kill man
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<datanetwork>	tbh two shots of crown royal in hot tea , sweat it out, night, later....
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<Rocket>	peace 
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<pirrup>	yo guys
<pirrup>	sorry i'm late
<pirrup>	hehe
<lattera>	heya pirrup
<lattera>	how's it going?
<pirrup>	alot work
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<pirrup>	l
<lattera>	yeah
<pirrup>	need sleep soon
<lattera>	me, too
<pirrup>	slept like 2-3 hours a day for 2 weeks now
<lattera>	I'm going on my thirteenth hour of work
<lattera>	me, too
<pirrup>	i bought a new 64bit test setup
<pirrup>	didn't even test it yet
<pirrup>	amd phenom II X6
<pirrup>	and asus crosshair IV formula motherboard
<pirrup>	ow and corsair H70 water cooling
<lattera>	tight
<pirrup>	yea lol think i'm gonna install osx
<pirrup>	just need an ssd disk now
<lattera>	I didn't think there was a version of osx that worked on phenoms
<pirrup>	mm i'll try and tweak it
<lattera>	at least, there wasn't a year ago when I spent hours trying to get it on my phenom II
<pirrup>	think only problem is kernel
<pirrup>	i'll keep you updated :)
<lattera>	cool :)
<pirrup>	but first i need sleep this weekend
<lattera>	lol
<pirrup>	only one day to go  :)
<lattera>	not like I really need to run osx on a phenom anymore, since I now own a macbook pro
<pirrup>	same here lol
<pirrup>	but i'll use it as test server with vm on it
<lattera>	cool
<pirrup>	don't wanna have winblows as main os on it
<pirrup>	so i could do linux or osx
<lattera>	ewwww, linux
<lattera>	<3 solaris ;)
<lattera>	opensolaris b134 makes a great VM host
<lattera>	zfs + xvm + crossbow = heaven
<pirrup>	yea would it run ok on amd phenom?
<lattera>	yup, both my servers are phenoms and run opensolaris
<pirrup>	if so i could have a look into that
<lattera>	well, one runs opensolaris b134
<lattera>	and the other runs openindiana, an opensolaris fork
<pirrup>	cool will look into it
<lattera>	all drivers supported and works perfectly
<lattera>	wh00t, this benchmark is almost done
<lattera>	once it's done, I'm clocking out and going home
<pirrup>	:)
<lattera>	and done
<lattera>	g'night
<pirrup>	gn8
<pirrup>	cu later man
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<pirrup>	after sleep :)
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